What does it look like when a molecular geneticist, global policy builder, and ultra-runner converges on a single investment thesis? In this episode, Ben sits down with Natalya Wallin — founder of Vitality Venture Fund — to trace one of the most unconventional through-lines in venture capital. From a PhD lab in molecular genetics to deploying $75M against forced labor in global supply chains to building a nature-inspired fund rooted in biomimicry, Natalya's story is a masterclass in following the spark. Together they explore systems thinking, somatic intelligence in high-stakes decision making, and why nature's 3.8 billion year R&D lab holds the investment thesis of our era.

Join Ben and his father, Ray Rodgers, as they explore the journey from high-stakes commercial real estate to the quiet clarity of true stewardship. Discover the philosophy behind Covepilot, the 80/20 rule of passive income, and the power of investing real, small, and away from the herd.

In this episode of At Depth, Morgan Keim discusses his personal and professional evolution from living an "inherited life" to building a career centered on intentionality and conscious capitalism. He shares how his background in value-add real estate—identifying underperforming assets and improving them—became a vehicle for building "quiet wealth" .

Growth rarely happens in comfort. This conversation explores leadership, accountability, and the discipline required to operate well when the stakes are real.

What starts as a story about building a fund from a basement becomes a wider conversation about trust, time, and intentional investing. This episode reflects on what it means to build something that lasts.

Most investment decisions are potentially more emotional first and rational second. Marc Bathgate explains why alternatives, storytelling, and restraint can matter more than chasing performance when the ground starts to move.

Steven Hatcher joins Ben Rodgers for a candid conversation on mineral rights, oil and gas, and the work of building trust in a skeptical industry. It’s a story about transparency, integrity, and choosing the harder path when shortcuts are available.