Shared moments of insight & clarity.

This is a space to be inspired, and challenged by what we have heard
and observed in the world around us.


      
  
      
  
 
    

 
   In November of 2025, I joined one of my closest friends Jason Catron and his co-host Shelby Rollins on The Vocal Lab Podcast. We sat down, I put on my  Pivotol “mind” for a conversation that blends identity, creativit
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Ben had the wonderful pleasure of being interviewed by one of his closest and most long-time friends, Jason Catron and his Co-host Shelby Rollins to talk about the universal principles behind the brands we build. What is it that drives the meaning people feel when they interact with us?

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